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  • Game of Thrones Keeps Trolling With The Incest And Veers From The Books

    Is there any better way to celebrate the holiest of Christian feast days than by consuming a ton of chorizo and eggs and then sitting down to watch incest, murder and loads of ill-advised sex on Game of Thrones?

    Probably if I were a more religious lady.

    But whatever. Because Jon Snow’s wolf Ghost showed up in this latest hour. When we last saw him he was less terrifying wolf and more cuddly albino dog. Now he is the size of a Shetland pony and prone to staring down former cast members of Skins.

    Guys, this dog is huge and I want to own him even though he's 90% movie magic.

    This is probably because he can smell her inbred baby, the product of her dad/husband raping her. I mean…not really–with Ghost smelling the baby, but I like to think that’s why. Like how that one cat can smell cancer in people. Ghost is actually super good at smelling incest. You introduce him to Cersei and Jaimie and he’d go batshit.

    But yeah, Gilly is pregnant and worried that if her child is a boy Craster will take him out into the forests and set him free which is not so enticing when you’re a day old baby in a frozen forest full of dire wolves and the undead.

    Being really really smart Gilly seeks out the one member of the Night’s Watch likely to be motivated by kindness and nobility? One Jon Snow? Nyet! One Samwell Tarly? Yes to the power of awesome. Sam is all adorable and portly and worried about the women and because he didn’t get reamed (the non sexy kind) by the Commander last episode like Jon he’s totally hip to the idea of pissing off Craster to help Gilly and her spawn escape the house that heterozygosity forgot.

    Only he asks Jon for help and Jon says no. And then he follows Craster and a crying baby into the woods where he either saw more wildings or the makers of the undead before Craster beans him in the head. ADVENTURES.

    Elsewhere in Westeros Arya is busy continuing to be the most likable and endearing character in this whole kit and caboodle. Why? Because she is a girl disguised as a boy. That’s just a step below body switching (seeing as both are deal with the fluidity of identity and, to some extent, gender). She has to make sure no one notices her squatting in the woods lest she be raped. Because that is a concern, because Westeros is basically the worst place to live ever.

    She’s also busy toying with the three criminals so dark and evil and terrible that they’re stuck in a cage. And by toy I mean she pokes two of them with her sword and glares at the third whom is far too sexy to be stuck in a cage.

    The Westerosi Dexter.

    But not as sexy as Skins alum number 2, Gendry, who sorted out Arya was a girl some time ago, but is a super decent guy and doesn’t rat her out. He’s even more decent when she reveals that she’s actually Arya Stark and thus one of the richest, most powerful and noble women in the entire kingdom.

    In ten years I'll be telling them to make out and I won't even be sorry about it. Flipping adorable BFFs forever.

    I don’t know about you but the Adventures of Arya and Gendry is a show I would pay to watch (seeing as this is on HBO I already am). These two have a great rapport and are both about ten times smarter than the people they’re with. Chiefly the guy leading their little band, who protects Gendry from some official assassins sent by Joffrey (he’s Robert’s bastard and therefore MUST DIE).

    Look guy, after you threaten to take a guy’s nuts off and he promises to return with more men and murder you you have two choices. Kill him and his friend and go on your merry way or smile smugly so we can all be sad when he returns in a future episode and probably kills you.

    Guess which option he chooses.

    Elsewhere Littlefinger is giving that prostitute from the North options of her own. She can stop crying and start working or be killed. Good for you Littlefinger. Cersei completely emasculated him last episode so he’s taking it out on the staff of his brothel this episode while being REALLY pervy. Dude is a champ.

    Cersei is also a champ, as is her brother Tyrion, who calls Janos Slynt into his office and fires his ass and sends him North on account of him being a terrible person whom betrayed Ned Stark and thinks he’s rich and fabulous. Score one for Tyrion!

    Also he tells Varys he’s smarter than Ned Stark and to leave his lady friend alone! Another point! Then he confronts Cersei about the dead precious Baratheon bastard babies. Maybe I stood up and cheered a little at the powerhouse acting when he realizes she didn’t order the hit and Lena Headey has to play Cersei as a woman realizing her son is an out of control monster and she’s terrified and unsure of what to do but can tell no one. She’s making me empathize with one of the great villainesses of fantasy literature and that is tits mcgee by me.

    HEADEY.

    And then when Tyrion presses the issue and mocks her incestuous love for their brother and she lashes out and you realize she’s just this five year old girl who had her entire life destroyed when her mother died, her brother was born and everyone started treating her like a girl (which we established it sucks to be in Westeros). That is a one two three punch of horror for anyone and maybe I wanted to give Cersei a hug and then take her out for froyo so we could get sugar highs and I could explain to her that she needs to stop making such bad life choices and being such an asshat to people.

    While Cersei and Tyrion are busy fighting over who gets to run the country while Varys and Littlefinger nip at their heels Daenerys is sunbathing. Which is ill advisable in her current condition of slowly dying of thirst. Then a horse strolls up carrying the head of the hunky rider she made eyes at last episode. Which, for those curious, was not something that happened in the books.

    And that, dear reader, is not a problem for me. You want to go off book? Do it! I’m an intelligent woman that can handle to concurrent similar but different stories. In fact I kind of love having things changed up a bit so I’m not quite sure what will happen. For me and the many other folks who have read the books this is great.

    Only I’m worrying that some of these changes are happening at the expense of some really kickass women and that their stories are being short shrifted so that the writers can bolster the stories of the men around those women.

    Specifically Catelyn and Melisandre. I made a major error last week when talking about Catelyn. I missed something huge. In the books Catelyn chooses to stay by Robb’s side. He doesn’t persuade her. And she insists on getting Stannis and Renly to help them join forces against the Lannister. It’s her idea. Not Robb’s. In the books Robb is smart in battle but positively stupid when it comes to politics and Catelyn knows this and stays by his side to help him.

    In the show Robb is older. Which–great–who really wants to watch a 14 year old boy schooling the universe in fighting (besides other 14 year old boys whom are probably too young to be watching this). So he’s going to be a little wiser than his book counterpart, but it is kind of terrible to make him smarter at the expense of Catelyn’s character. She’s one of the cleverest and most identifiable characters in the book for a lot of people–particularly women. Having her turned into a straight up “I miss mah babeez Robb hold ur mama and make it better” kind of woman is a little gross when I start to think about it.

    And it looks like it could be the beginning of an alarming trend, because in this episode Melisandre bangs Stannis and that never ever ever happens in the book. Both book and show Stannis are these hard assed lawful guys. They’re like medieval Judge Dredd. Only now tv Stannis cheats on his wife to bang Melisandre who is suddenly a super vamp luring Stannis away from smart choices with her vagina and not just her words and magic.

    Now we know that the offer of a son is aphrodisiac to uptight jerk kings. Also knowing what she actually means this is kind of DELIGHTFUL. You'll see.

    Siiiiiiigh.

    Guys seduced into hypocrisy by sexy ladies is nothing new Game of Thrones. I much preferred guy seduced by words and staying loyal to his code of honor while the sexy lady was busy confusing us and making us wonder if she is good or evil. Because you better believe that the scene tonight where he angrily bangs her on a map of Westeros was about outright villainizing the two of them and removing that wonderful shade of gray they remained in in the books.

    At least–AT LEAST–some women only saw very minor changes to their characters. Asha Greyjoy of the books is now Yara Greyjoy and she’s the exact same–if not more awesome. Any woman who trolls her brother into a little incestuous fondling then tells him she’s leading his men into battle because she’s better than him is a-okay in my book.

    Notes

    • I hope to God that conversation about farting when dying comes back at some point. Like someone dramatically dies and then you hear a piffff. Or that someone gets on youtube and adds fart noises to every death in the show thus far. Can that happen immediately? My five year old inner self desires it.
    • Davros and his pirate friend trolling his super religious son. Between them and Yara the pirates of Game of Thrones be a trolling people.
    • Theon’s father is a dick. Theon is also a dick. They should have a dick off to see who can be the bigger dick and then Yara should win because she is the best of all of them.
    • You know nothing Jon Snow. Especially when it comes to doing late night jaunts into the forest.
    • Next Week: Renly and his beard wife show off for Catelyn. Theon runs around King’s Landing being smarter than everyone else and knowing it thus making him slightly less awesome. Lena Headey wrecks acting.

    EDIT: As pointed out in the comments below, in the books there are very sly references to an affair between Melisandre and Stannis. So sly that I actually missed them! Yet thinking about it I feel my main concern is still quite valid? Painting their relationship as warped, sexual and dependent on children from the very beginning drastically changes how we, the audience, approach the character. And maybe not for the better.

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  • Keith_Richard_Radford_Jr

    At the very least the farmer’s daughter chooses sausage over carpets.

  • b h

    Melisandre and Stannis are/have been sleeping together in the books.  It’s not overtly stated (“With Stannis gone, her bed saw little use.” -ADWD) until later in the series.

    • http://fempop.com/ Alex Cranz

      Woah. I guess I seriously messed up my reading of the book! I’ll post a correction at the bottom. Thanks for the tip!

  • http://www.facebook.com/apostate9 Rob Holman

    No. Melisandre is putting out fire-crotch for Stannis and always was.  He put the queen in a tower? A different tower than his? Not because he likes her…he doesn’t. That relationship  (Mel/Stannis)is only more warped on the screen because JRRM wanted it to come out that way. He’s a straight arrow…that points directly to the crown no matter what’s in the way, and she’s a crazy  power-drunk whore. The very BEST kind of crazy whore, but don’t make this a “weak woman blah-blah-blah” moment, it isn’t. She is as JRRM wrote her. 

    On that note: Catelyn. Naw. She was “Bwaaaaaahhh” the whole time in the books, she IS “mah babeeeeez”. Totally. Sorry. She is distinct for her unswerving love for her children which IS noted to be a positive female trait, don’t make it more or less than it is. She IS a bit more political in the books, and Robb a BIT less, but she is pretty awful actually.

    As for truly badass female characters (adults)…I would not really hold up Catelyn as an example, she is sort of full fo fail, actually. Try Breanne of Tarth. She is ugly, unsexy, and no man wants her. She fails every modern female stereotype a gal could find to complain about. And…she is a better man than most of the men in the book, and a better knight than almost all of them.  So good a man is she, she actually SHAMES Jamie into becoming…a hero? Only Breanne could unman Jamie Lannister to the point he has to acknowledge he is a douche-wagon and  then try to act like a damn knight for once.

    • JSG1982

      I agree with Rob. As early as A Clash of Kings, it’s apparent that Stannis and Melisandre had a sexual relationship (read the end of the second to last Davos chapter). And Catelyn isn’t nearly as smart as the writer thinks she is. Despite constantly telling herself that she’s offering “wise counsel,” much of it was anything but. She basically set off the entire war by falsely arresting Tyrion, and she does several really, really stupid things in the future that I won’t mention because I don’t want to spoil anything.. And stop trying to sell me on Cersei. Just because she’s a bit more sympathetic than she was in the books, that doesn’t change the fact that she’s still evil and still stupid. Nobody, not even the Theon of A Clash of Kings, had a more overinflated opinion of herself than Cersei.

      And I can’t believe that the writer thinks that Asha (I will not call her “Yara,” which is one of the dumbest name changes ever–they really couldn’t have changed the much less important Osha’s name to something else?) is the same. Uh, not really. It’s hard to say for sure after just a couple scenes, but I’m more disappointed in the casting and writing of Asha than any other character in the series. That scene (taken from the second Theon chapter, which is one of my favorites from the whole series) was completely botched. In the book, she does a great job of resisting his advances while leading him on just enough to mess with him. But she draws the line when he tries to grope her, as she removes his hand from her breast on two separate occasions. In the show, she actually seemed to enjoy it when Theon was feeling her up, which was just creepy.

      There are some great female characters in this series. Arya is my favorite character (with the possible exception of Tyrion, she’s the most intelligent and witty character in the series, and she’s also a badass), and I also really like Asha, Brienne, Sansa, and Daenerys (even if she did do some stupid things in the last book). There’s even some great minor characters like Meera Reed. But that doesn’t mean that EVERY female character is great. Cersei is still evil. Stop saying otherwise. Let’s not forget the murders (Jon Arryn, King Robert) that she was involved in. And I’m not cutting her any slack for what happened with Ned Stark. She’s the one responsible for “raising” Joffrey, after all. And Ned was only reacting to her incestuous relationship with Jaime. He may have been incredibly dumb to tip her off about it, but he was still in the right morally. Cersei is a villain. Period.

      • http://fempop.com/ Alex Cranz

        Yo bro, please reread just about everything I’ve written about Cersei because I think you missed out on where I love the character, admire the actress but acknowledge that she’s the devil incarnate.

        And trolling Yara is the best. 

        But I’m having a hard time taking anything you or Rob say seriously because you both dislike Catelyn. Come on man! She’s the tits!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Stewart/509153013 David Stewart

    It was definitely more explicit, but the Stannis/Melisandre part didn’t surprise me or make me cry out in inaccurate horror. I don’t really want to spoil anything, but I think that little tryst becomes important in the next episode or few episodes (I can only assume) because of the result of their map-defiling. Maybe the best way to portray it on screen was just to show them getting it on and not having to go all inner dialogue about other characters suspicions of what might have happened.  

    • http://fempop.com/ Alex Cranz

      Oh I definitely think its related to that [SPOILER] we’ll be getting in a few episodes.

      I’m starting to think I blanked out on all mentions of a sexual relationship between them. I was genuinely surprised when they started banging on the maps as I couldn’t remember anything like that being alluded to in the books.

      But then I have to stop and remember that I treated her as a major villain until her chapters in the fifth book. So somewhere between the second and fifth book I helpfully forgot all of her bad/dark points.

  • Mollie Muse

    There were a couple times in the books where I really did think Arya and Gendry were going to make out. And that made me uncomfortable. And then I think Arya punched Genrdy and ran away and everything was OK again.

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